FROM THE ECOLOGICS ARCHIVE – SEPTEMBER 14, 2007
Note: The following post refers to the interview given by Lord Justice Sedley to the BBC’s Today programme on September 5, 2007. The post is unlikely to make much sense unless you listen first to that interview. Alternatively, you may wish to read my transcription of the interview. Please also note that this post is the second in a series:
1 Introductory Comments
2 The Confusion of Powers (present post)
3 Lord Justice Sedley’s (and John Humphrys’) ‘Common Sense’
4 McNulty’s Genie (or the power of quasi-ecumenical debate)
For readers unfamiliar with the UK’s media institutions: the Today programme is broadcast on the BBC’s Radio 4 station Monday to Saturday from 6am to 9am. There is a news bulletin every half hour, with ‘in-depth’ news items in between each bulletin. According to the BBC’s own 2006/2007 annual report, Radio 4 had an average 15-minute weekly reach to adults aged 15+ of 18.7% or 9.3 million people (1). In 2006, the Today programme itself had approximately five and a half million listeners over its three hours (2); the number of listeners peaked between 7.30 and 8am.
This is, of course, a large audience. But the true significance of Sedley’s choice—if indeed it was his choice—lies not so much in the quantity of listeners, but in the people that reportedly tune in to the Today programme, and in the regard that they have for the programme’s ability to ‘set political agendas’(3). The BBC describes the Today programme as ‘the nation’s premier morning news programme’(4), and John Humphrys, its famous presenter, has recently gone so far as to say that it is the single most important programme that the BBC produces from the point of view of its impact and influence on the national debate (5). Whether this is true or not, it seems clear that listening to the programme is de rigueur for the UK’s political, economic and cultural establishment.
The slot between 8.10 and 8.25 is usually reserved for an in-depth interview with what the programme editors regard as the most important social, political or economic figures of the day. It was this slot that was requested by—or perhaps given to—Lord Justice Sedley. The interviews in this slot are typically prefaced by an introductory comment by the programme’s leading presenter (one of two in each programme). The interview itself may then adopt one of several different modalities: a live interview in studio; a live interview that is conducted remotely (away from the studio); an in-depth analysis by a specialist journalist followed by an interview with a relevant individual or group; or a pre-recorded interview that is broadcast at 8.10. Sedley chose the last and the safest of these options; instead of running the risk of being subjected to the vicissitudes of real time questioning, he opted for the ‘controlled conditions’ of a pre-recorded interview. This presumably would have allowed him to re-record any unclear or awkwardly phrased statements before they were broadcast.
While some interviews are structured as one-on-one sessions for the duration of the slot (usually between 10 and 15 minutes), others are followed by the intervention of commentators whose role is ostensibly to debate what the initial interviewee has just said. In the case of the Sedley interview, the editors of the Today programme chose two people who, on the face of it, should have been in a good position to comment on Sedley’s intervention: Tony McNulty is the UK’s Minister of State for Security, Counter-Terrorism, Crime and Policing, and so directly responsible for the government’s policymaking vis-à-vis the DNA database. As I reported in another post, McNulty signed off a review of the UK’s criminal evidence procedures which supported the extension of DNA sampling for all real or alleged offences, however minor. For his part, Richard Thomas is the UK’s ‘Information Commissioner’. He heads the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO), which is ‘sponsored’ by the Department of Justice, and which describes itself as ‘the UK’s independent public body set up to promote access to official information and protect personal information by promoting good practice, ruling on eligible complaints, providing information to individuals and organisations, and taking appropriate action when the law is broken.’(6)
The interviews in the Today programme are usually structured on the basis of an adversarial logic: the advocates of opposing views are juxtaposed and frequently encouraged to enter not just into debate, but to do so in an antagonistic manner. John Humphrys is perhaps the presenter who is most strongly identified with this tradition; the BBC’s profile describes him as a ‘tough and tenacious’ interviewer(7), and indeed during one interview Humphrys famously interrupted a former Tory minister 32 times.
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The BBC’s editorial guidelines suggest that the BBC is committed to impartiality. According to the BBC, this means that, amongst other things, the corporation seeks to provide ‘a properly balanced service consisting of a wide range of subject matter and views broadcast over an appropriate time scale across all our output’; to ‘reflect a wide range of opinion and explore a range and conflict of views so that no significant strand of thought is knowingly unreflected or under represented’; to ‘produce content about any subject, at any point on the spectrum of debate as long as there are good editorial reasons for doing so’; to ‘explore or report on a specific aspect of an issue or provide an opportunity for a single view to be expressed, but in doing so we do not misrepresent opposing views. They may also require a right of reply’. The Corporation aims to ‘ensure [that] we avoid bias or an imbalance of views on controversial subjects’. Indeed, the BBC goes so far as to say that its ‘journalists and presenters, including those in news and current affairs, may provide professional judgments but may not express personal opinions on matters of public policy or political or industrial controversy’ and ‘[o]ur audiences should not be able to tell from BBC programmes or other BBC output the personal views of our journalists and presenters on such matters’(8).
These guidelines reflect the BBC’s commitment to what might be described as a traditional discourse on the nature of journalism. A good journalist, or rather the news that s/he produces, is accurate, balanced, includes where appropriate a diversity of views, and does so in a manner that is not prejudiced by any bias, or by the personal views of the journalist.
While this discourse has been comprehensively critiqued by a number of scholars (see for example, Stuart Allan’s News Culture), there is still much to be said for it; we have only to consider the alternative posed by Fox News (9) to realise how vitally important it is to try to produce impartial, or something like impartial accounts, in news reporting.
The problem is that editorial guidelines such as the BBC’s are of course no guarantee of impartiality—for the BBC, or for any other news organisation. On the one hand, and staying within the logic of the guidelines, journalism is always susceptible to external manipulation, to mistakes or bias incurred thanks to the pressures of time or the limitations of space, and indeed to ‘internal’ manipulation by ‘biased’ journalists. From a more critical perspective, the guidelines are based on relatively naïve understandings of the nature of the production, dissemination, and social reception of knowledge by way of the media of mass communication. Modern societies and the issues that emerge in them tend to be so complex that there may well be far more perspectives than a journalist can ever know, understand, or report in any given case or subject. To be sure, the finite nature of a journalist’s, or indeed of a team of journalists’ knowledge means that s/he/they will necessarily bring to bear a certain perspective to whatever aspects they do manage to cover. Practical constraints to do with generic formulae, the amount of space or time available to produce a piece, the political and economic interests of the news organisations and their bureaucracies are not a matter of exception. On the contrary, they are the structural conditions under which, and with which journalists must work to produce news.
This post is not the place to engage in a detailed critique of journalistic conventions. It must suffice to suggest that, in practice, the aforementioned constraints force journalists to be selective, and thereby reductive with respect to the range and number of points of view that they represent. Those that they do choose will reflect, however indirectly, the ‘biases’ of their own knowledge and/or experience. Put differently, journalists’ representations will always exclude or misrepresent at least some views or perspectives.
Unfortunately, these ‘structural’ limitations are not necessarily evident to all listeners of the Today programme, and I fear they may not have been evident to a majority of the listeners during Sedley’s interview. I have undertaken to explain how and why this is the case in a series of articles in this blog; in this post I would like to focus on the way in which the selection and framing of the participants meant that, for a majority of listeners, the interview may well have worked not so much to scrutinize Lord Sedley’s proposal, but to legitimate his intervention.
In order to explain how this is the case, it is necessary to consider first some aspects of the legal and political context in which Sedley intervenes. In particular, the separation of powers, or rather, the absence of a separation of powers in the UK. While the courts in the UK are certainly independent, the court of final appeal is made up of Law Lords who sit in the upper house of parliament (the House of Lords). And of course, the prime minister, his cabinet and junior ministers form at once a part of the government and of the parliament (the legislative chamber). Plans are afoot to create a separate ‘supreme court’ in the UK, and this change is justified, at least officially, as a way of ensuring a certain separation of powers. Note, though, that no similar concern seems to exist vis-à-vis the possibility that there might be an analogous conflict of interest concerning the fusion of the executive and legislative branches.
Why is this relevant to the interview? The interview’s overall structuring reflects what is actually a fusion, or rather, a confusion of powers in the UK. Strictly speaking, it ought to be Jacqui Smith, the Home Office Secretary, or Tony McNulty, her Minister of State for Security, Counter-Terrorism, Crime and Policing, who propose a universal DNA database. Had s/he done so—and of course neither did—we might well have expected that the Today programme would have devoted the initial part of the interview to an interrogation of the secretary or her minister. That interrogation might then have been followed up by critical analyses by MPs, judges, or other relevant figures. Alternatively, the interview might have been structured from beginning to end (as per the adversarial logic I mentioned earlier) as a debate between Tony McNulty and John Humphrys, or a three-way debate between these two and, say, Richard Thomas.
But of course, it was the judge that proposed the extension of the controversial methods of policing, and so the editors were confronted with—I am assuming they themselves did not create—a situation in which there was, in effect, a role reversal. Sedley co-opted, however momentarily, the role, if not of the Home Office or of the police per se, then certainly of policing. In effect, he abandoned his role as an arbiter of justice to make a plea for a particular form of policing.
Even if one is critical of the idea of the separation of powers—and certainly the Bush administration has provided us with a lesson on the limitations of the Baron de Montesquieu’s three-way model—Sedley’s intervention raises any number of questions about his capacity to deal with DNA evidence in an impartial manner. If the case of the McCanns teaches us anything, it is that one police officer’s ‘absolute’ conviction that a DNA sample proves something is a forensic specialist’s caution that DNA, on its own, proves nothing (10). Can a judge who has declared so openly that DNA is the only ‘way forward’ really be trusted to remain impartial in any future case whose outcome hinges on contested DNA evidence?
Whether one thinks so or not, this entire aspect of Lord Justice Sedley’s intervention was overlooked by the journalist (Danny Shaw), by John Humphrys, and by the Today programme’s editors. This needn’t have been the case, unless the editors themselves asked Sedley to give the interview ‘out of the blue’—a possibility which would raise significant questions about the editors’ impartiality. Assuming that it was Sedley who approached the BBC, then the Today editors might , for example, have prefaced the Sedley interview with an in-depth analysis by the BBC’s legal correspondent about the extraordinary nature of his intervention from a judicial point of view. Why was a judge taking such a strong position in regard to matters concerning policing, and what were the implications of his intervention for criminal justice in a parliamentary democracy? What would happen if, say, judges routinely came out to recommend the use of new-generation tasers to apprehend criminals, or indeed to recommend the privatization of jails?
Instead, the journalists on the Today programme chose to probe the judge on alternatives to his proposal for a universal DNA sample, and on the practicality of obtaining DNA samples from people visiting the country ‘over the weekend’. While these two aspects are certainly not unimportant, the absence of any analysis of the nature and legitimacy of the judge’s intervention qua intervention constitutes the programme’s second-most glaring omission.
What, then, is the most glaring omission? The interview’s structure clearly positions McNulty, the Minister of State for Policing, as a kind of commentator on someone else’s proposal. Even when Humphrys gently asks McNulty if he ‘broadly’ agrees with Sedley’s proposal—note that Humphrys hesitates when he formulates the question—McNulty answers in a manner that arguably conceals his true role and interest in the matter. As I explained in my post about the Gattacaization of the UK’s criminal justice system, McNulty is one of the New Labour figures who is either championing, or at the very least, endorsing the backdoor institution of a universal DNA database. The reader might well argue that I have not really presented any direct evidence for this; but it is well within the power of McNulty, Jacqui Smith, and indeed Gordon Brown himself to order the police to stop collecting DNA samples from people who have not been convicted of any crime. In the absence of such an order, we have to assume that all three are complicit in what Sedley himself describes as an ‘indefensible’ state of affairs: collecting DNA samples from a growing number of people who have either not been convicted of any crime, or whom are not even suspected of any crime.
This fundamental point is glossed over by the programme’s positioning of McNulty as a kind of commentator on Sedley’s proposal. McNulty himself does nothing to clearly correct this impression: when asked if he agrees with Sedley’s proposal, he says ‘Oh there is, there is a logic to what Sir Stephen is saying and I’ve said that myself in the past that, ah there is a real logic and cohesion to the point that says well put everybody on it. But I think he probably does underestimate the practicalities, logistics, and huge civil liberties and ethics issues around that…’. This, and several other of McNulty’s answers, arguably work to position McNulty as a demi-sceptic, somebody who can ‘see a certain logic’ in the proposal, but who thinks that there are ‘huge’ practical, logistical, civil liberties and ethics (sic) ‘issues’ (note the order in which these are stated). If these ‘issues’ are really that ‘huge’, why hasn’t McNulty—or indeed the rest of the New Labour government—stopped the police from collecting the samples of witnesses and suspects who have been acquitted of wrongdoing, or who never were charged or even suspected in the first place?
Again, this is a matter that Humphrys could easily have probed. In his first question to McNulty, he might well have begun by saying, ‘Tony McNulty, you have commenced a review of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act (PACE) which proposes to take DNA samples from individuals suspected of committing any offences, including so-called ‘minor’ offences such as speeding on the highways. Your department is even proposing to set up special facilities in shopping malls and other city centre sites where the DNA samples might be taken from alleged offenders. Why aren’t you the person that is proposing the universal DNA database? Surely that’s your role, and not Lord Justice Sedley’s?’
The only interviewee who is left to critique the proposed extension—and indeed the overall frame of the BBC interview—is the UK’s ‘Information Commissioner’, Richard Thomas. He ought to have been well positioned to do so; this is his official role, and indeed Thomas has warned repeatedly about the UK sleepwalking into a ‘surveillance society’(11). Instead, and most regrettably, by the time that Thomas himself is interviewed (after Sedley), he is caught up in, and appears unable to stop the discursive pincer movement that the programme editors’ have generated, inadvertently or not, by way of their selection and presentation of the participants’ views. Even before he’s started speaking, Thomas must extricate himself from a rhetorical trap—a trap of ‘common sense’—that Sedley has laid for him and anyone else who might oppose the universal DNA database: if, as Sedley argues, the current situation is ‘indefensible’, and if the only way ‘forward’ is to create a universal DNA database, then by implication anyone who opposes Sedley is either defending the ‘indefensible’, or going ‘backward’.
Instead of beginning by questioning how and why Sedley has intervened in this matter in the first place, Thomas begins by agreeing that the current situation is indeed ‘indefensible’(and so it is). Thomas is probably at once adopting the codes of politeness (finding ‘common ground’) and trying to reinforce the one aspect of Sedley’s intervention that he agrees with. Unfortunately, the rest of his intervention is rather weak. Thomas not only fails to comment on the fact that it is a judge that has called for more draconian forms of policing, but does little more than call for tighter rules on the retention of DNA samples, and for a wider debate on the subject. Indeed, it is John Humphrys who reminds Thomas of some of the more controversial issues associated with the database (e.g. including children in the database).
There is another aspect that Thomas also fails to address: as the Government’s leading expert on data protection, he must know that New Labour is not just ‘broadly’ in favour of a universal DNA database. However, he chooses not to confront McNulty, or indeed the Today show, on this aspect. True, when Thomas is questioned, McNulty himself has not yet been interviewed (this too, raises questions about the BBC’s editorial decisions: why wasn’t the person with the most critical role the last one to speak? Or why wasn’t Thomas allowed to comment on McNulty’s intervention?) But this does not entirely explain the relatively weak character of Thomas’ intervention. Is this his first time on the Today programme? Or could it be that his comments reflect the peculiarly disempowered position that he inhabits as ‘Information Commissioner’? (He is, on the one hand, supposed to be a kind of watchdog or ombudsman. But he is of course appointed by the government of the day, and indeed his office is ‘sponsored’ by the Justice Department.) In what looks to be a kind of Freudian slip, or at least an apparent contradiction, one of the pages on the ICO website suggests that ‘The ICO is the UK’s independent public body set up to promote access to official information and protect official information.’(12) This raises the question: does the ICO seek to promote access to, or to protect official information? Here too, one has to wonder whether the ‘fusion’ of powers in the UK is not better described as a confusion of powers.
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This very brief analysis is meant to begin to reveal the extent to which, far from being the kind of ‘impartial’ and ‘balanced’ account that it is supposed to be, the Today‘s interview of Lord Justice Sedley might well be described as a form of dissimulation — in the sociological sense of the term. As noted by John B. Thompson in Ideology and Modern Culture, dissimulation is one modus operandi of ideology which works to establish or sustain relations of domination by concealing, denying, obscuring or representing them in ways that deflect attention away from them (13).
Let me be very clear: I am not saying that John Humphrys did not ask some good questions. On the contrary, he did ask some tough questions, and the interview did succeed in providing significant insights into the discourse of Lord Justice Sedley. However timidly, Danny Shaw did also confront Lord Justice Sedley with the absurdity —or rather, the impracticality today— of his proposal.
Nor am I saying that the Today interview was partial or biased in any simple way. No, what is at stake is a rather more ‘structural’ form of ‘bias’, one that has to do with the way in which the entire interview positioned —read, framed— the different participants vis-à-vis Sedley’s intervention, vis-à-vis each other, and vis-à-vis McNulty’s and New Labour’s interest in introducing a universal DNA database. In effect, the Today editors structured the entire interview in a manner that failed to reveal and scrutinize the politics that underpinned Sedley’s and McNulty’s interventions.
It might be argued that, if my analysis is valid, then the editors are not at fault insofar as they have been the victims of a maneuver hatched, if not by Lord Justice Sedley himself, then by New Labour politicians. But that is like saying that journalists cannot help it if they are lied to. In a society where journalists know all too well that they are the continually the objects of spin and of efforts by politicians to control their interpretations, it is the journalists’ duty to stop and think, as a matter of course, about the kinds of issues that I have raised. If they don’t get it right the first time, that’s fair enough. But if they don’t, then nothing bars them from revisiting the subject a second, third or fourth time. Why not invite McNulty back for an interview in which the above matters are discussed? And as part of that, why not make public—very public—the contents of that PACE review?
By way of a postscript, a question for the ICO: is there not an unacceptable conflict of interest in the fact that one of the ICO’s non-executive directors is, has been, or might in future once again become a non-executive director of the Forensic Science Service Ltd, the private-public company that describes itself as a world leader in the development of DNA databases? See http://www.forensic.gov.uk/forensic_t/i3/index.htm, and also http://www.shareholderexecutive.gov.uk/performance/fss.asp (accessed September 14, 2007) where David Clarke remains listed as a non-executive director.
On Tuesday: “Lord Justice Sedley’s (and John Humphrys’) ‘Common Sense’”
References
1) As per the BBC Annual Reports and Accounts 2006/2007 (Executive Report), p.41. http://www.bbc.co.uk/annualreport/, accessed September 12, 2007. According to this same document, ‘average weekly reach for radio is measured by the number of people aged 15+ who tune to a radio station within at least one quarter-hour period over the course of a week. Radio listeners only need to have listened to the station for at least five minutes within that quarter-hour (RAJAR)’. (RAJAR is the Radio Joint Audience Research and describes itself as the official body in charge of measuring radio audiences in the UK.)
2) as per Julia Day, ‘Today bears brunt as Radio 4 slumps’, http://media.guardian.co.uk/rajars/story/0,,1836176,00.html, accessed September 12, 2007.
3) In 2005, Broadcast magazine suggested that MPs voted the Today programme as the most influential programme in setting the political agendas. See ‘BBC News Tops MPs’ Survey’ at http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_4440000/newsid_4444700/4444751.stm, accessed September 12, 2007.
4) BBC Annual Report and Accounts 2006/2007, p. 41.
5) ‘In terms of its impact and its influence on the national debate, the trust in which it is held by its huge audience, the Today programme is easily the most important programme that the BBC does.’ In ‘John Humphrys: On the threat to ‘Today’’ in Independent Online, September 3, 2007, http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article2919835.ece. Accessed September 12, 2007.
6) ICO website, http://www.ico.gov.uk/about_us.aspx, accessed September 13, 2007.
7) http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/about/meet/pres.shtml?humphrys, accessed September 13, 2007.
8)BBC Editorial Guidelines on Impartiality. http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/editorialguidelines/edguide/impariality/, accessed September 13, 2007.
9) see for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies, accessed September 14, 2007.
10) ‘DNA expert in McCann case offer’, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6992372.stm, accessed September 14, 2007.
11) ‘Britain is Surveillance Society’, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6108496.stm, accessed September 12, 2007.
12) http://www.ico.gov.uk/about_us/who_we_are.aspx, accessed September 12, 2007.
13) Cambridge: Polity Press, 1990, p. 62.